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http://undorecords.bigcartel.c.....expanded-edition-2cd



Greek expanded edition with 6 exclusive remixes approved by Andy & Vince.
Different design to any other format
Limited to 500 copies
THIS IS A PRE-ORDER.Out on Dec 21st,2017
We Won't SELL MORE THAN 2 COPIES PER PERSON!

CD1-World Be Gone CD

1.Love You To The Sky     4:27
2.Be Careful What You Wish For!     3:21
3.World Be Gone     3:40
4.A Bitter Parting     3:13
5.Still, It's Not Over     4:03
6.Take Me Out Of Myself     4:34
7.Sweet Summer Loving     3:55
8.Oh What A World     4:16
9.Lousy Sum Of Nothing     4:13
10.Just A Little Love

CD2- Be Careful What You Wish For! Greek Remixed EP

01 Be Careful What You Wish For (Lacquer Remix) 5:52
02 Be Careful What You Wish For (Paint A Rumour Remix by Marsheaux) 5:29
03 Be Careful What You Wish For (Tareq Remix) 5:56
04 Be Careful What You Wish For (Eliot's Circuit Mix) 3:05
05 Be Careful What You Wish For (Fotonovela Remix) 4:38
06 Be Careful What You Wish For (Metroland's Mono-Poly Mix) 6:37





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If it’s packaged anything like their 2-CD edition of Violet Flame, the BCWYWF! EP CD might come in a separate flat card picture sleeve - which would be a nice addition to the World Be Gone singles box- kind of a ‘secret’ 4th single!
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Ordered mine, extra Christmas present to myself lol
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Well, there goes my donation into the Salvation Army bucket. Have to avoid that side of the street this Xmas.

Are we 100% sure that this isn't the 4th CD single just coming out in this first?

Personally, I get the vibe this was done as the 4th single, was dropped, but the Greeks are going ahead anyhow. If there's going to be a Mute/PIAS issue though, I'd like to know now.


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Personally, I get the vibe this was done as the 4th single, was dropped, but the Greeks are going ahead anyhow. If there's going to be a Mute/PIAS issue though, I'd like to know now.


Ditto.  I really don't want to buy this if these mixes are coming later.


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Damn my itchy trigger finger. Why couldn't you have given me a sign, Mute?  


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I just ordered a Christmas gift to myself. I am really looking forward to hear the remixes of Be Careful What You Wish For since, it is my favorit song from the album  
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Very nice, can't wait to hear these mixes, always like an exclusive set like this!
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This does make the Japanese edition look half-hearted in comparison.

All we need is a resurgence of the Taiwanese versions. I'm up for a copy with a blow-up version of "Emma" (the ship's figurehead).


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Well, there goes my donation into the Salvation Army bucket. Have to avoid that side of the street this Xmas.

Are we 100% sure that this isn't the 4th CD single just coming out in this first?

Personally, I get the vibe this was done as the 4th single, was dropped, but the Greeks are going ahead anyhow. If there's going to be a Mute/PIAS issue though, I'd like to know now.


Beginning to wonder if there might now be a 'World Be Gone - Remixed' 12" EP for Record Store Day 2018... who knows...
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This does make the Japanese edition look half-hearted in comparison.

All we need is a resurgence of the Taiwanese versions. I'm up for a copy with a blow-up version of "Emma" (the ship's figurehead).


Love it!!  

Was the special "Cowboy" edition with the blow-up ball from Taiwan? Loved the edition with fake cowhide!  

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It was from Singapore


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Singapore, Taiwan, where else? All of those got weirder as they lobbied for export domination over the Japanese editions. While some feel they detracted from the music, I loved it. It was a great time when competition brought out the best...mainly money from our wallets. Erasure capitalism at its finest.


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Quoted from Gareth Pugh
Beginning to wonder if there might now be a 'World Be Gone - Remixed' 12" EP for Record Store Day 2018... who knows...


I would be VERY sore NOT to see an Erasure release of some kind. In fact, I am EVERY RSD when there's none. For a band that was born and grew in the age in which the shaped picture disc was in its prime, it's stunning not to see the same kind of releases like we have from A-Ha, etc. Yeah, I get most of those reissues are on bigger labels (Rhino, etc), but Mute is pressed and distributed by PIAS which makes the stuff for many of the majors already. There's no reason there's not more RSD issues. There really outta be things like A Little Respect 7" pic discs, and maybe a retail reissue of the transparent blue Oh L'amour promo 12". I think those would warrant the same kind of reissue as did A-Ha.

For WBG, a EP is a tad more risky than the retro reissue, but I'd love to see that too.


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[quote=1990

For WBG, a EP is a tad more risky than the retro reissue, but I'd love to see that too.
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I know what you mean; they chanced it for The Violet Flame so fingers crossed they might be brave again.

Adding to your point, I’ve always been amazed no Depeche Mode RSD release ever, so far.
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Only bought the vinyl upon release so this i dont want to miss, ordered!
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Be quick if you want one - just had a second mail shot saying only 50 (of the 500 run) left.

It will be interesting to see how they raise the existence of this edition in this Friday’s weekly EIS newsletter if it’s already no longer available - that might mean Richard would give clues to whether the mixes are planned to be made available by other means later (or not)?
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Actually, I kind of hope this might spur Mute to change their mind and actually release this as a single. Let's be honest, we don't HAVE to hold to the three logos on the box meaning only three singles CAN exist. We know one (or even two) more will fit in it. Mute can always throw in a little sticker to add the single logo to the box with the rest for the anoraks, you know (Talking to Mute here as such a person).  

Of course, some of us who bought this might be irked if they do release a 4th CD5", but I never would be. Like hell would I EVER bemoan the fact MORE Erasure was released (unlike those who whinged their "rarities" would lose value when the EBX sets came out).

It would be rough for Richard if it's sold out well before the next newsletter, but worse if the tracks aren't released since it's seems obvious this was a slated 4th release that didn't happen.

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At 20 Euros, they can keep it.  I really love Be Careful and *really* want the mixes, but I'm not buying the album again.  I guess it's mainly fatigue, but I also don't want to reward Mute for holding these mixes back.  Plus, I know as soon as I place my order that it will be announced as the next single.


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I think this is exactly what happened last time the link went out before it was announced by EIS


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Actually, I kind of hope this might spur Mute to change their mind and actually release this as a single.


This expanded edition has been promoted as featuring 6 exclusive remixes.

If as soon as they've sold out of the sets they then go and announce that they're going to release them all as a single, they will no longer be exclusive.

To do so would possibly render the claim of exclusivity to be false advertising.

I certainly would demand my money back.
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Well correct me if I'm wrong but to commission 6 remixers and only make 500 available mute are either paying them peanuts making a loss or they will make be careful remixes available at a later date either on physical format or download
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Sure, the mixes can be exclusive now but that means really little moving forward.

I feel pretty certain they'll be available elsewhere in the future, even if just as digital downloads.


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To be honest and I'm not trying so be negative but to pay 20 euros(roughly 17 British pounds)for a CD single cos I have the album already,I'm pissed off with being ripped off after the fiasco of m2 mars last xmas and after mute had said earlier in the year about not fleecing the fans with extra tidbits with the world be gone album they go and do this ,erasure have one of the most loyal and dedicated fanbase around and I think mute sometimes take advantage of it
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At this rate they will be sold out before Richard announces it in fridays EIS update


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Are we 100% sure that this isn't the 4th CD single just coming out in this first?

The people behind this item are more or less the same as for the Violet Flame Greek 2 x CD edition and it's not just a forthcoming 4th single but a special Greek release. So don't count on any of these remixes on any 4th single....just saying  



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
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i would highly doubt that these mixes will be released again--i would say buy NOW if not sold out already
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This expanded edition has been promoted as featuring 6 exclusive remixes.

If as soon as they've sold out of the sets they then go and announce that they're going to release them all as a single, they will no longer be exclusive.

To do so would possibly render the claim of exclusivity to be false advertising.

I certainly would demand my money back.


I disagree wholeheartedly. There are many an example of "Limited Edition" releases subsequently released as part of later releases or in different formats on different regional labels. This was what I was getting at with citing the loathesome stance of some to the EBX sets way back when. They made quite a similar argument.

You really can't hold Mute to what a licensee claims or does. Did everyone march on Mute when Alfa released extended releases? What about when Intercord did color vinyl? Plus any implied or stated exclusivity of content was, again, made void by the EBX boxes, so did you want your money back for your Heavenly Action L12" after EBX came out?

Truly, I get how it can be annoying to some if we are to see the 4th single go forward, but I really do think it would be because of how well this did, rather than have been planned this way (at least I hope so). The news of the fourth single would have been known by now if it had been planned ahead.

I just don't feel as sore as you do, or would, right now, since I bought with this possibility in mind. Plus, we're getting a rainbow. Are you saying you wouldn't buy this for that alone???

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The people behind this item are more or less the same as for the Violet Flame Greek 2 x CD edition and it's not just a forthcoming 4th single but a special Greek release. So don't count on any of these remixes on any 4th single....just saying  


Outside of Marsheaux, the tracklist doesn't look at all to so Greek-specific that I think it was always meant solely for this release. No, I think they released what was comissioned for that 4th single, and maybe had Marsheaux sweeten the pot if they weren't on board to begin with.

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Well correct me if I'm wrong but to commission 6 remixers and only make 500 available mute are either paying them peanuts making a loss or they will make be careful remixes available at a later date either on physical format or download


Agreed. I think these mixes were "in the can" already.


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I disagree wholeheartedly. There are many an example of "Limited Edition" releases subsequently released as part of later releases or in different formats on different regional labels.


That’s my view too. These days I tend to view the offer of ‘exclusive’ tracks as a promise that these mixes etc are only available this way *for the time being* at the time of release - not as a ‘promise forward’ that they will not be made available again via other means, even quite soon. Look at OMD’s imminent ‘wash-up’ B-Sides and Bonus Tracks’ CD due in December. I bought the 3 x 12” singles bundle for this album for the sake of nice items for the collection but I didn’t think the B-side tracks wouldn’t soon be compiled in another format: they did the same bit of tidying at the end of the campaign for the last 2 albums as well. And I don’t mind, just as I won’t mind if BCWYWF does become a 4th single in the new year for the tour (not sure we will see a 4th, but a ‘Tour Edition’ of the WBG or a Record
Store 2018 mixes EP are 2 developments that I wouldn’t be surprised by if they happened).
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Outside of Marsheaux, the tracklist doesn't look at all to so Greek-specific

...what can I say...you're wrong

Though I won't bet nothing on, any of these remixes will be to find anywhere but on this release, in the future



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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...what can I say...you're wrong

Though I won't bet nothing on, any of these remixes will be to find anywhere but on this release, in the future


I'm not too big to admit when I'm wrong, and I'm...not entirely certain I'm correct.  

I dug a bit more on the remix artists, and two or three are UNDO-signed. Metroland is Belgian, so I'm holding onto that.  


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I'm not too big to admit when I'm wrong, and I'm...not entirely certain I'm correct.  

I dug a bit more on the remix artists, and two or three are UNDO-signed. Metroland is Belgian, so I'm holding onto that.  


As far as I’m aware none of the Violet Flame Greek remixes made it to another release


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I'm not too big to admit when I'm wrong, and I'm

Not to keen about saying that at all, but there you go    ....especially not when your knowledge about Erasure is so large  




My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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I was going to order one but they always have a new mystery box that pops up


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I was going to order one but they always have a new mystery box that pops up


Yeah....like "Don't buy the album yet....just wait for the Greek release"  



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Not to keen about saying that at all, but there you go    ....especially not when your knowledge about Erasure is so large  


*Checks sarcasm detector*  

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Yeah....like "Don't buy the album yet....just wait for the Greek release"  


Frankly, this should now be a meme.

If Trump released his tax returns, UNDO would still add a few more pages.  



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Yeah....like "Don't buy the album yet....just wait for the Greek release"  


More like we sold out but look we found an unexpected box in our crazy unorganized warehouse  


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...what can I say...you're wrong

Though I won't bet nothing on, any of these remixes will be to find anywhere but on this release, in the future



..even on YouTube ?...
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hi,

i missed it!! anyone bought a second one and would like to trade for the greek Violet Flame double CD ("The Violet Flame - Exlusive Remixes) (still sealed)?

thx,
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..even on YouTube ?...


Read again.....I think you misunderstood me



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
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Read again.....I think you misunderstood me


OK, sorry (English is not my native language...)  
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OK, sorry (English is not my native language...)  

Hey, not mine either....had to read what I wrote twice to understand it myself  




My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
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Be careful what you wish for, indeed!  I boycotted this release.

What really pisses me off is that many of us were hoping for Be Careful as a single, and we got the crappy JALL instead.  Mute sells us a CD single filled with mostly forgettable JALL mixes knowing the whole time that Be Careful mixes were in the works (which I assume have GOT to be better mixes than JALL mixes).

Like Mr First said, after throwing money after money to buy and then rebuy everything Erasure (ie, FM2M), I'm losing my taste for this money-grabbing crap.  If we get these released as a single that everyone can (reasonably) purchase, I'll get them.  If not, I'll just have to live without them.


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I've never Seen the point of these import releases like the Czech release of rock me gently(reasonably priced by the way)or is there reason behind these releases cos neither country is noted for its erasure popularity(if anyone could enlighten on this much obliged)or is just mutes sinister way of driving us fans into a frenzy every time something new is released
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I've never Seen the point of these import releases like the Czech release of rock me gently(reasonably priced by the way)or is there reason behind these releases cos neither country is noted for its erasure popularity(if anyone could enlighten on this much obliged)or is just mutes sinister way of driving us fans into a frenzy every time something new is released


Well the German/Czech release of Rock Me Gently was just a single, you didn't have to buy the whole album again. Though it flopped in both countries, it was well worth a try and we got some good stuff on those discs.
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I don't know if it was accurate or speculation, but the idea at the time was that Rock Me Gently, with all the long mixes and long running time, was not going to be able to make the UK singles chart, so Mute let their new Czech offices release it.  Germany also got a CD single because Germans seem to get everything electronic music related!

This Greek WBG simply makes no sense to me.  My best, cynical guess is that Be Careful was considered but scrapped as a single, so someone decided to print a few CDs of the mixes, package it with the album (that by now everyone has at least 1 copy of) and charge a premium price.

I know there are many fans who, no matter what is released, are just going to open their wallet and pay whatever it costs.  I know some of you here bought this, and I'm not faulting you by any means, but I personally am just tired of rewarding this kind of behavior.  Looks like my boycott was rather useless though since obviously it sold out before even Richard could mention it in the weekly newsletter!

Just tacky.

And I have to wonder what other WBG repackagings we'll get next year around tour time!  You know they are cooking up something.


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Well, I like Marsheaux, and I'm deciding to, for the moment, feel positive about being hoodwinked into laying down my cash for this.

Still, while I get your point, this is not nearly as egregious as the multiple digital editions of Electric Blue being spaced out as they were, and it's pretty on par with what the Japanese labels had done in the heyday (and still occasionally get up to) of Britpop popularity. Put simply, this niche market really doesn't exist as it did then, and most licensed labels don't attempt to do it...if they even try to license a release these days. UNDO is an anomaly here in their attempt to corner the remaining "expanded import" market when it comes to Erasure. In fact, I kind of applaud them for trying to do something so nostalgic and succeeding (Unlike other true cashgrabs like Intervention with their Wonderland Sire LP reissue). I wish I could walk into Tower or HMV and find a copy in the Imports section.  


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I've never Seen the point of these import releases like the Czech release of rock me gently(reasonably priced by the way)or is there reason behind these releases cos neither country is noted for its erasure popularity(if anyone could enlighten on this much obliged)or is just mutes sinister way of driving us fans into a frenzy every time something new is released


I don't know to be honest. It might be a condition of getting Undo to take on the album's greek release/distribution that small labels provide them with the chance to do something exclusive. I know it's not just Mute, 100% records (home of OMD since they reformed) agreed to a similar 'greek only edition' of their first reunion album, (the brilliant) History of Modern; that came with 2 or 3 bonus remixes (again, including one by Undo's own act Marsheaux) and that came in very nice different packaging (black sturdy slipcase sealed with a printed logo'd ribbon and a wax seal with the OMD logo on).  So I'd guess it is something like that. I guess having exclusive content helps Undo because it widens their potential sales audience up to fans around the world also wanting it. And who knows, that might make the difference between it being worth Undo's while to get it printed up and not, numbers-wise.
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I don't know if it was accurate or speculation, but the idea at the time was that Rock Me Gently, with all the long mixes and long running time, was not going to be able to make the UK singles chart, so Mute let their new Czech offices release it.  Germany also got a CD single because Germans seem to get everything electronic music related!


And I have to wonder what other WBG repackagings we'll get next year around tour time!  You know they are cooking up something.


The way Rock Me Gently was released was, I heard, Mute decided it wasn't financially worth risking good money after bad on a third UK domestic single after the first two had underperformed here quite badly (by Erasure's standards at that time), but that the album project had done OK in some continental territories (Czech Republic and a little later Germany and the Netherlands with the 4-track CD format).

The UK chart rules at that time allowed for an EP CD (the insistence on having to have a 2-track '7inch content amount' CD single as part of the formats mix came later) which could have up to 4 tracks and could contain songs other than just the A-side, but couldn't exceed either 4 tracks and 20 mins. The German and Dutch 4-track CD would have allowed for that, no problem. Then, you were also allowed a remixes CD and that had a more generous 40 minutes max run time, providing you didn't  include anything except versions of just the A-side track. You could release both and indeed, that's the pattern the UK releases of Stay with Me and Fingers and Thumbs followed. I suspect the German/Dutch 4-track would have been the UK 'CDMute xxx' and then the 4 mixes exclusive to the Czech CD (i.e. excluding the 7" mix of RMG and Chertsey Endlos) would have made up the UK 'LCD Mute xxx'.

In other words, there would have been no problem splitting the total of 8 different tracks and mixes that exist across all RMG EU formats into a permutation that was in keeping with all other 'Erasure' album singles, and keeping within the chart rules. And so I'd heard the import of (I think I was told by the EIS) 5,000 copies of the Czech CD into the UK for distribution to larger record stores like Virgin and HMV as 'Import' was a gesture to keep UK fans happy. But not to do with track lengths and    prevailing chart rules.

Also - something tells me you may well be right about there being a collectible/expanded/re-released format of the WBG album to coincide with the tour. I know nothing whatsoever by the way, so i'm not dropping hints when I say that, I don't know any - but my gut-feel says I think you could well be right on that one.
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My recollection was that it had something to do with the fact that Erasure had had an unbroken string of Top 20 hits going back to "Sometimes," and that this would be preserved by not releasing "Rock Me Gently." in the UK.  "Fingers and Thumbs" only made #20, and they did manage to go one further with "In My Arms."  
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My recollection was that it had something to do with the fact that Erasure had had an unbroken string of Top 20 hits going back to "Sometimes," and that this would be preserved by not releasing "Rock Me Gently." in the UK.  "Fingers and Thumbs" only made #20, and they did manage to go one further with "In My Arms."  


I remember something to this effect. But oddly enough they did a real high quality professional video for RMG and this  to me one of their best videos too.


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I remember something to this effect. But oddly enough they did a real high quality professional video for RMG and this  to me one of their best videos too.


Yes, but maybe they had made the video while preparing the release, then changed their minds.  It is a good video, though.  
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Yes, but maybe they had made the video while preparing the release, then changed their minds.  It is a good video, though.  


The video was made for a UK release or was it all along for the Czech/ German release?


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The video was made for a UK release or was it all along for the Czech/ German release?


That's a very good question,the video for RMG was argualbly one of their finest (some are real stinkers not mentioning any names Star/Elevation) it does beg the question why spend what looks like a very big budget on a very small release?,maybe it was earmarked for a wider release?



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Both Erasure and Depeche Mode have missed the boat on RSD. They have their perfect target audience just waiting for Anything- Globally!! Yes the numbers aren't large but it always keeps the hardcore fans buying from their favorite groups. As Mark mentioned already, we should have had many cool things done already. Hope they do something for 2018


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That's a very good question,the video for RMG was argualbly one of their finest (some are real stinkers not mentioning any names Star/Elevation) it does beg the question why spend what looks like a very big budget on a very small release?,maybe it was earmarked for a wider release?



I'd always assumed the RMG video was shot before they decided to scale back the planned full-scale UK release (CD, LCD, 12" etc.) to the more limited formats and countries?
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Both Erasure and Depeche Mode have missed the boat on RSD. They have their perfect target audience just waiting for Anything- Globally!! Yes the numbers aren't large but it always keeps the hardcore fans buying from their favorite groups. As Mark mentioned already, we should have had many cool things done already. Hope they do something for 2018


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A picture disc press is a terrible thing to waste.


You love your picture discs!!  
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I'd always assumed the RMG video was shot before they decided to scale back the planned full-scale UK release (CD, LCD, 12" etc.) to the more limited formats and countries?


That's my assumption as well.
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You love your picture discs!!  


Are you saying I sound like a broken record?



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Are you saying I sound like a broken record?



You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby


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A Phantom Bride Picture Disc that shall remain Phantom


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Until I have a 3-D printer, that is.


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Out today, hopefully despatched today also and urgent mail to the UK
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Out today, hopefully despatched today also and urgent mail to the UK


I hate to be the pessimist but I’ve pre-ordered a few things from Undo and the time it takes to get from Greece to UK is usually about 3 weeks or so after release date, so i reckon we’re looking at mid January or so.

Fingers crossed this time’s the exception, though!
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I hate to be the pessimist but I’ve pre-ordered a few things from Undo and the time it takes to get from Greece to UK is usually about 3 weeks or so after release date, so i reckon we’re looking at mid January or so.

Fingers crossed this time’s the exception, though!

Not that it will help but for a fact I know several of their delays have been caused from companies who have been produced the discs/artwork.....



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Let me know if anyone got a spare for sale when they get it.


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I hate to be the pessimist but I’ve pre-ordered a few things from Undo and the time it takes to get from Greece to UK is usually about 3 weeks or so after release date, so i reckon we’re looking at mid January or so.


They should have added a North American Tour Hype sticker to the plastic wrap, then.


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I guess they take orders and then go into production, which takes some time


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That sounds more like a pledge-based project.


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That sounds more like a pledge-based project.


Well they have the same principals, they met the pre order quota and then sets off to produce them.


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Considering they have a track record of such releases, and know how well they do, they ought to have felt confident to commit to a run either way. This wasn't touted as "if and when we get 500 orders...".


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The selling point was it was limited to 500. They could have easily sold 750 or 1000. But they set up that benchmark number for some reason. I know they did more because no one stops at 500 on a production run.


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The selling point was it was limited to 500. They could have easily sold 750 or 1000. But they set up that benchmark number for some reason. I know they did more because no one stops at 500 on a production run.



The last Greek Edition from Undo was a limited of 500.
Also Lexer had copies for sale but they seem to have not given them a sales option this time round. That may well be due to the quick sales run of the Violet Flame version and they thought well let's keep all profits for us! (Cynical but probable)


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I’ve not received this email but other buyers have it seems-(nice to see abespoke album cover rather than the added on card sleeve last time)

Here is a copy of the mail i got today from Undo...

Dear ******

Thank you for ordering the Erasure-World Be Gone Greek Edition CD! We’re writing to let you know that orders have been delayed slightly by late delivery of the tri-fold digipack remixes Cd package  

Those will be  delivered to the Undo Records warehouse on January 4th   and Cds will be out for delivery the same day

We thank you (again) for your patience and feel sure the cd you’ve ordered will be worth the wait.

Happy Christmas,

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I’ve not received this email but other buyers have it seems-(nice to see abespoke album cover rather than the added on card sleeve last time)

Here is a copy of the mail i got today from Undo...

Dear ******

Thank you for ordering the Erasure-World Be Gone Greek Edition CD! We’re writing to let you know that orders have been delayed slightly by late delivery of the tri-fold digipack remixes Cd package  

Those will be  delivered to the Undo Records warehouse on January 4th   and Cds will be out for delivery the same day

We thank you (again) for your patience and feel sure the cd you’ve ordered will be worth the wait.

Happy Christmas,

George and Nick xxxx


Well, I'm not too miffed, but it would have been a nice touch to have made some of the tracks available online in the meantime within those emails...of which I didn't get one.

Just sayin'.


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I would agree that a Download option should have been made available to those who prepaid


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I’ve not received this email but other buyers have it seems-(nice to see abespoke album cover rather than the added on card sleeve last time)


It’s funny, this time around I was hoping the BCWYWF! disc *was* going to come in a separate card sleeve so it could be stored as an ‘almost’ 4th single in the collector’s box from JALL.
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Well maybe one of you creative types here can print up some fan-made sleeves for BCWYWF, and we'll get Dima to print up half-assed CDR copies for those of us who didn't get it.  Boom!  Our 'almost' 4th single!

Kidding, kidding!


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It’s funny, this time around I was hoping the BCWYWF! disc *was* going to come in a separate card sleeve so it could be stored as an ‘almost’ 4th single in the collector’s box from JALL.






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Vandalism! Sacrilege! Erm.... other things!!

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Hey, I understand. I couldn't bring myself to cut out my EIS card from the form. Had the whole thing laminated. The Private Ear too. Real pain to flip the pages now.  


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Orders should be dispatched today


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Orders should be dispatched today



To think I typed that whilst full of hope.

A post on the UEC states the cd won’t be out now until 15th January I’ve emailed Undo but as yet have had no response but this is apparently a snippet of an email sent to a fan.

“The truth is that  our typographer is changing the  delivery date ,day by day
We used the digipack template that Mute provided us ( they designed the artwork)
But this template and the  outercard was not compatible with our templates and the typographer had to adjust all from the beginning

Those will be  delivered to the Undo Records warehouse on January 15th   and Cds will be out for delivery the same day”


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I get the feeling that they will produce more to sell


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Again, no downloads for those who ordered.

Have to say, that should leave a bad taste in the mouths of everyone who's ordered.

If not the tracks, since it's a printer issue, they could add an extra lyric booklet or something. Only appropriate.


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Or mini poster or postcard set


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I like the way you think.


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Or a plastic blow-up "globe" (the world in World Be Gone) beach ball!  
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Or the full remastered Abba collection on minidisc  



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Or the full remastered Abba collection on minidisc  


How did that get in the mix?


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Not heard of printers doing those or beach balls, but then I'm not so much in the know anymore.


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Anyone heard these remixes yet? How are they?
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Anyone heard these remixes yet? How are they?



Today is supposed to be the (3rd) release day so in theory nobody has heard them until CD arrives in the next week or so.


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These seems to be a production nightmare for Undo


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These seems to be a production nightmare for Undo



Quelle surprise.  
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AGAIN, that something should be offered in compensation to those who ordered GOES WITHOUT SAYING...except I needed to.

C'mon UNDO. Make with the MP3s and the added paper goods already.


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I’ve been assured by Undo Records that all of the UK orders of the Greek Edition of World Be Gone were sent out on 15th January I assume all other orders would be despatched same day.


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Just receive this from Undo Records (with artwork pictures):

"Thank you for ordering the Erasure-World Be Gone Greek Edition CD! We’re writing to let you know that orders have been delayed slightly by late delivery of the tri-fold digipack remixes Cd package

The truth is that  our typographer is changing the  delivery date ,day by day
We used the digipack template that Mute provided us ( they designed the artwork)
But this template and the  outercard was not compatible with our templates and the typographer had to adjust all from the beginning

Those was  delivered to the Undo Records warehouse yesterday,January 16th   and Cds will be out for delivery from today

We thank you (again) for your patience and feel sure the cd you’ve ordered will be worth the wait.

Happy New Year!!!"



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Hmm, wondering now: Did Paul (Taylor) work with Paul (White) when he (White) was working as Me Company on the Wild! art? I just wonder if Paul (Taylor) is kinda adept at forging his (White) cursive style, or if he (Taylor) did it in the first place.

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I want to know what happened to the rainbow version of the cover?


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Probably even further off screen. Maybe on a second monitor.


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