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were the joe vannelli remixes ever released on CD? someone on discogs tried to sell me a CDR and i'm suspicious it was ever formally released on anything other than vinyl.

https://www.discogs.com/release/9823755

note: the person who tried to sell me the CDR created the discogs listing.
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It's 1000% fake. It never existed.

I will wager that this individual used the FLAC files from
a pretty well known blog site to create a fake entry and
an even more fake pressing.

Using this entry, one could easily claim that it is "official"
in attempt to drive up a higher bid price.

Let common sense prevail.


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I know it may seem a chore to some, but it's more important to post on the Discog entries you see, and know for a fact are fakes, than to comment here (although commenting here helps subsequently). Responding here alone leaves nothing to doubt for those who just happen upon those listings and know nothing of this site.


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Quoted from synthpopfan
It's 1000% fake. It never existed.

I will wager that this individual used the FLAC files from
a pretty well known blog site to create a fake entry and
an even more fake pressing.

Using this entry, one could easily claim that it is "official"
in attempt to drive up a higher bid price.

Let common sense prevail.


I was offered this item to purchase, as well as several others that are probably fake. I just sent a detailed PM to Pughie.
https://www.discogs.com/release/8161698-The-Violet-Flame-Exclusive-Remixes/history#latest
https://www.discogs.com/release/8161428-Always-2015/history#latest
https://www.discogs.com/release/8161676-A-Little-Respect-2015/history#latest
https://www.discogs.com/releas.....o-Cdr/history#latest
https://www.discogs.com/release/8847050-Oh-LAmour-Radio-Mixes-2003/history#latest
https://www.discogs.com/release/9829547-The-Innocents-Remixed-2-Disc-Set/history#latest

The last item is almost laughable, the item is claimed to be from 1988-1989, yet the CD-R and sleeve are printed with the MUTE cube style logo that first appeared circa ~2000.

What is this stuff? Is it genuine leaked material that someone has bootlegged, or just fan fiction? What's that about FLAC on a blog?


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For some reason, my work has recently started blocking discogs (I guess because there are YT videos ??) and without seeing the exact listings, I'm 99.999% sure that you are dealing with the Russian who goes by bumzy aka perec1983 aka other aliases (real name = Dima).  He is not to be trusted buying OR selling.

From what I can gather, he buys promos only to make bootleg copies and/or complete fakes to trade or sell.  Avoid, avoid, avoid!


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Quoted from Tin Soldier
I know it may seem a chore to some, but it's more important to post on the Discog entries you see, and know for a fact are fakes, than to comment here (although commenting here helps subsequently). Responding here alone leaves nothing to doubt for those who just happen upon those listings and know nothing of this site.

I'm not a member on Discog's, so feel free to use there what I've said here.
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What's that about FLAC on a blog?

Google is your friend


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Russian fake sellers abound. It's not worth collecting CDr for me in many, many years.


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Same guy is trying to this one to me....it's fake be aware!!

https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-The-Innocents-Remixed-2-Disc-Set/release/9829547

discogs seller/member music_maniac_2013 is a fraud!!



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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I'm slightly curious as to what it is they actually put on these CDs. Is there anything even on them at all?

Those unheard of remixes obviously don't even exist, but are they using other existing mixes and giving them new names?

Some of the tracks of course have never even been officially remixed AT ALL. Are they using bootleg/fan made mixes and then renaming those too?

A Google search for all those 'exclusive' remixes brings up nothing but the very same Discogs entry itself (which goes a long way to discredit it's legitimacy).

There are a few well-know mixes as well of course, but I'm guessing those have been put on to make it seem more genuine.

I am not however so curious to find out that I would buy it!
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I am not however so curious to find out that I would buy it!


I'm standing in between also, but you know the item is fake but very curious to find out whats on  


....also I think music_maniac_2013 is the same as the discogs member Bumzy ....and other names



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Quoted from glazball
For some reason, my work has recently started blocking discogs (I guess because there are YT videos ??) and without seeing the exact listings, I'm 99.999% sure that you are dealing with the Russian who goes by bumzy aka perec1983 aka other aliases (real name = Dima).  He is not to be trusted buying OR selling.

From what I can gather, he buys promos only to make bootleg copies and/or complete fakes to trade or sell.  Avoid, avoid, avoid!


Look here how tricky this is getting.....

BTW: heres a new bootlegger name on discogs...could be our russian 'friend' also: sbclar

...some real fans/collectors on discogs are now and then writing 'unofficial' for those CD-R's bootleg items where it's easy to see that they are fakes. Now Bumzy/Dima/Perec1983/Sasha..../music_madness_2013 is slowly deleting 'unofficial' from the entries....look at my screenshot below....this dude needs a real kick in his ba...






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My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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more of the same where you can see how Dima (I think) aka Bumzy are removing 'unofficial' when someone has added it....the entry maker is sbclar and he is working with Bumzy....and they probably are the same fella......grrrrr, how can he get away with this!! I know some will say just forget it, but I can't....it's too much and illegal too!!



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My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Quoted from devoleb

I'm standing in between also, but you know the item is fake but very curious to find out whats on  


When I saw there was a remix of 'Love Is Colder Than Death' on the track-listing I remembered that our old friend ASH-II had done a fan mix of this.

According to Soundcloud, ASH's mix lasts 5.31.

According to the listing for the fake Innocents promo, the 'Vince's Hypothermic Mix' ALSO lasts 5.31.

So my guess is it's ASH-II's mix ripped from Soundcloud and put on a CDr, no doubt along with a few other fan-made mixes.

I can't of course mention ASH's mix (who won the 'Say What You Want' remix contest) without offering a link to it  

https://soundcloud.com/ash-ii/erasure-love-is-colder-than-death-ash-ii-mix

Also, the opening track on the fake Innocents promo is titled 'Respectfully Remixed By Andy Mix'.

I suspect this is a renamed 'GRN's 'Respectful' Radio Mix', a version by GRN that was once given away via the Erasure Info website (I'm sure most of us here know GRN for many of his official Erasure remixes).

Obviously 'respect' is not a word understood by these fakers.
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I'm not a member on Discog's, so feel free to use there what I've said here.


As you can see from posts since yours, and the other thread, that it's more useful if you do register and speak in the first person. It seems we may all be needed in the effort.

https://www.discogs.com/users/create



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