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Perchance to dream and mad as we are two of the most beautiful songs in the erasure back catalogue
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Not to add fuel to the fire but I feel the same way about Love You To The Sky on WBG. Odd tracks that just don't belong on the album


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Pure speculation, but around the time of Loveboat's release, Vince was doing a lot of work with 3D soundscapes and whatnot.  I have a feeling that Loveboat was perhaps made and mixed in multi-channel, which probably sounded great in Vince's studio, but when it was mixed down to stereo for CD/vinyl release, it wasn't done correctly - hence, the muddy, soupy, bass-heavy Loveboat album we all know and love.  It's just a guess on my part.

If you have ever taken a multi-channel/surround sound source and forced it through, say, a pair of headphones - you can tell that it is muddy and doesn't sound right.  I just refuse to believe that Loveboat is *supposed* to sound like it does.  My hope is that one day, when the album gets its eventual special edition re-release, that it will either be correctly mastered or completely remastered and included as a second disc (so purists can still have the original release as the first disc).


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I'd love if David Wrench had a crack at it.


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Not to add fuel to the fire but I feel the same way about Love You To The Sky on WBG. Odd tracks that just don't belong on the album


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Pure speculation, but around the time of Loveboat's release, Vince was doing a lot of work with 3D soundscapes and whatnot.  I have a feeling that Loveboat was perhaps made and mixed in multi-channel, which probably sounded great in Vince's studio, but when it was mixed down to stereo for CD/vinyl release, it wasn't done correctly - hence, the muddy, soupy, bass-heavy Loveboat album we all know and love.  It's just a guess on my part.

If you have ever taken a multi-channel/surround sound source and forced it through, say, a pair of headphones - you can tell that it is muddy and doesn't sound right.  I just refuse to believe that Loveboat is *supposed* to sound like it does.  My hope is that one day, when the album gets its eventual special edition re-release, that it will either be correctly mastered or completely remastered and included as a second disc (so purists can still have the original release as the first disc).


Good points but when they (the band, Mute) would've finally heard the CD/vinyl release, they would've acknowledged the issue and order a new, corrected pressing. Don't you think?  
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Perchance to dream and mad as we are two of the most beautiful songs in the erasure back catalogue


And I feel exactly the same about Love is the Rage and Surreal (one of their best album- ending songs ever IMHO)
For me, despite the production and mixing choices made, it’s a much much stronger set of songs than Cowboy, which Iwas a bit disappointed by (shiny, but empty by-numbers ‘feelgood’ tunes in places, like a musical forced smile).
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The minidisc version is on its way, so I'll let you know about that one. I do love this on the UK CD and the original UK vinyl. Does anyone have the UK cassette version? I find that Mute's UK cassettes weren't all that great, but the US versions were amazing (of course Loveboat was not released on US cassette).
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I find that Mute's UK cassettes weren't all that great, but the US versions were amazing...


Hmm, I have found the opposite to generally be true when it came to European vs US cassette dubbing. I rarely had to adjust head azimuth (when using a deck that had the option) on them vs American cassettes. I found this true of Canadian vs USA on average as well.



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They still make cassettes today but not any good decks to buy


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They still make cassettes today but not any good decks to buy


No, and the aftermarket is a mixed bag as most good ones have been serviced - to what degree, and by whom is not always known.


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I have the UK cassette but I can't say that I've ever listened to it.  And these days, I don't have a means of listening to cassettes.  Doesn't stop me from buying them for my collection, though.    Much like the Mini-Disc I bought for Pop!
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I was a bit bored tonight and listened to loads of Erasure, after all these years I still love this album. Tonight I streamed it via Apple Music through HomePod, it sounds amazing. The warmth of the sound is just incredible on this album.
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