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devoleb
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Hi all,
I need your help and time to help other collectors/fans with this.

...well, it's me and me alone coming with this, but I really think something is wrong here with these promos (links below)

IF I'M WRONG I PROMISE TO SAY SORRY FOR TAKING YOUR TIME!!

...but I've some proof around this for later on to show you guys.....so crab your copies if you have any and see how they are looking like compared to these here under.
My claim is that some of these are bootlegs and with this post I hope to find out the truth so others will not lose a high amount of money on this thinking they all are real promos

...some of them might be original, but surely there are some fakes/bootlegs of these out there

https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Ship-Of-Fools/release/3716734
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Chains-Of-Love/release/3716749
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Sometimes/release/3716526
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Victim-Of-Love/release/3716603
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-The-Circus/release/3716707
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Oh-LAmour/release/3716475
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-A-Little-Respec/release/3716799
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Who-Needs-Love-Like-That/release/3716388
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Heavenly-Action/release/3716420
https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-It-Doesnt-Have-To-Be/release/3716568

I think they some of those on the pictures are fakes so please challenge me and give me some proof that I'm wrong or help me to find out if they are bootlegs or which ones there are originals

I could easily 'look the other way' but IF some of them are fakes as I claim, we really could help some fans from being cheated on here....it's so damn easy to make fakes these days

Thank you for your time fellas  

EDIT: I've edited in my first written text



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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I don't know what to say. I don't have any of these discs, but I've just found this page on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401207661510

Are these the same promos? Because you could contact the seller to ask him where, when and how he got them.

César


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Quoted from Cesar
I don't know what to say. I don't have any of these discs, but I've just found this page on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401207661510

Are these the same promos? Because you could contact the seller to ask him where, when and how he got them.

César


I have contacted the seller, thanks

EDIT: I've been in touch with the seller and soon in this thread I'll make some comparing and picture proof and stuff to show some of them are fakes



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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I made it a point to stop collecting ANY CDR. Its just to risky and easy to reproduce and I just don't care for them.


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hello i am selling theres promos  on ebay
i have had them a few years now  ...  as i replyed to the person   on ebay  think it my be the person who as ask  this  questions
i got them off a collector  few years back now  don't know who  ..
as im Starting to sell a bit of my collection off
yes please  if any one can let me know  about them  as i don't sell  FAKE promos  im gen
thank you  ..
as there was other cds promos back in the days with tex printed inlays cds   .....
i guess  it was how many was made and produced at the time   ....

i have now taken them off   for sale  to see if any one  as information  on them  ... if there are fake or not  ....

PLEASE  LET ME KNOW   AS WELL
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Quoted from Mikedepaz
I made it a point to stop collecting ANY CDR. Its just to risky and easy to reproduce and I just don't care for them.

You've got a point, but many do collect hardcore and I just wanna help them from being cheated on. Myself I am thinking of stopping collecting CD-R's for the same reason....unbelievable that some will copy these items and claiming they are real and do sell for earning easy money on true fans/collectors.....would be lovely to have an insider from MUTE to help here



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Quoted from little_shane
hello i am selling theres promos  on ebay
i have had them a few years now  ...  as i replyed to the person   on ebay  think it my be the person who as ask  this  questions
i got them off a collector  few years back now  don't know who  ..
as im Starting to sell a bit of my collection off
yes please  if any one can let me know  about them  as i don't sell  FAKE promos  im gen
i all so  got the ebx promo samples on cdr promo  as well  ..
thank you  ..
if any can prove there fakes  as i said  i brought them off  a collector   i will take them off

Follow this thread and I'll soon make some proof that some, if not all, of these EBX promos are fakes.....I hope off course yours are originals, but lets find out




My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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yes  please let me know  
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This is getting a serious problem for fans this fake promo rush that seems to be going on.
I have many promos all official (hopefully) but these are mainly from a few years ago,but now many 'promos' seem to appear that look and seem genuine but are very cleverly done fakes.

I find it funny that fakes even appeared for Andy's iPop album after many warnings from Shelter themselves that they have never made any CD promos.
Mute have always had promo CDs for promotion but they seem to be getting fewer heading for download promo releases for the newer material.

I feel I may stop hunting for promos now as it is getting too unreliable on what you will get,be it real or fake.


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Quoted from Pughie
This is getting a serious problem for fans this fake promo rush that seems to be going on.
I have many promos all official (hopefully) but these are mainly from a few years ago,but now many 'promos' seem to appear that look and seem genuine but are very cleverly done fakes.

I find it funny that fakes even appeared for Andy's iPop album after many warnings from Shelter themselves that they have never made any CD promos.
Mute have always had promo CDs for promotion but they seem to be getting fewer heading for download promo releases for the newer material.

I feel I may stop hunting for promos now as it is getting too unreliable on what you will get,be it real or fake.

Well said...and these days promo track are often the same as for the normal rleases. Back in those days often there were special promo versions mailed out to DJ's and radio stations to promote. Now a days a promo often is a one track disc few weeks before the normal release. After internet went online (hehe) the special tracks are out everywhere very fast, so it is not the same collecting promos as before....well another reason to give the vinyl one more chance  



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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All these promos ARE OFFICIALLy!!!!!!
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All these promos ARE OFFICIALLy!!!!!!


I've been waiting for you to post here. I guess you have them all..... will you please post good quality photos of your discs here so we can see how the originals looks like, thanks. If you are right, I must be wrong....please post both covers and cd's...it will be a big help



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Ok, now it's time for me to share my ideas of why I believe these are fake releases. Excuse me if you think this 'fake' thing is boring, but I only wanna help fans from being cheated on....and perhaps give the fake-maker a lesson  

First of all, as I see it there could be three situations:
1) There are made two different fake versions
2) There are made two original different releases
3) There are released one original and several fakes made

Looking with my eyes and please comment on these examples  

Pic_1) There is a typo EDX should have been EBX, typical bootleg error

Pic_2) Totally different fonts 2 disc compared, close but no cigar!!...sorry for the pic quality

Pic_3) Totally different font and different design/text

Pic_4) Totally different font and different design/text...sorry for the pic quality

Pic_5) Totally different font and different design/text

Pic_6) Here is a different between "NO 1." and "NO. 1" look at the "." ….it's placed different...a typical bootleg error

Pic_7) Look how different the text is made, especially the text in the two circles compared

Pic_eigth) This pic shows that the same person have uploaded both different designs/versions, so this person must have two originals, two fakes or one of each. Anyway this person is a fraud!!

Almost all pictures/visuals are made/uploaded by the same person on discogs, both versions/designs. So is there 2 versions of fakes, two versions of originals or one original and one fake? Make your own conclusion and please comment  

...and please please...smirnov1959/perec1983/bumzy/lenbl etc. etc. please comment on this, thanks



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My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Disc one just looks excellent,but then and I suppose even a big fan like me can too easily miss the complete failure of the EDX lettering.

I think everything you've put is a valid point.


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Really, I don't think I'm alone in saying the desirability of CD-R promos is very low, and that any fan who seeks to become a completist (I pity you, for it's a hard life!) ought to give them a pass. (Well, barring finding them at a place like Goodwill, or Oxfam for you Brits)

What is contained on them is often ripped and available via digital sources (even if just someone who's ripped the CD-R itself), and the majority contain tracks available elsewhere commercially anyway. Short of one or two, the cover art is often derivative of better commercial releases, or just bad copies of it. They have little, if any, aesthetic value.

I'm almost glad that they are counterfeited so easily, for anyone should assume they are, and never buy any. Those who are reading this, and have committed such crimes, have only yourselves to blame for hurting what market there is. Greed defeats itself.


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