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My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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It's a fake promo CD, definitely. Just have a look at the design of the backcover and you'll see that columns of the tracklist aren't perfectly in line. Even worse, the seller thinks "Love Is Coming" is the name of a song, so he added "Extended Mix" to it. Another detail is that the catalogue number is "Mute470", where this is the kind of code Mute uses for 7" singles, not for a promo CD (it should be something like PCD Mute 470, for instance). There are more details (I don't remember a Mute promo CD with a white or black border on the cover, just to give you an example) but I think the ones I've mentioned are enough as to be certain it's a fake disk.

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It's a fake promo CD, definitely. Just have a look at the design of the backcover and you'll see that columns of the tracklist aren't perfectly in line. Even worse, the seller thinks "Love Is Coming" is the name of a song, so he added "Extended Mix" to it. Another detail is that the catalogue number is "Mute470", where this is the kind of code Mute uses for 7" singles, not for a promo CD (it should be something like PCD Mute 470, for instance). There are more details (I don't remember a Mute promo CD with a white or black border on the cover, just to give you an example) but I think the ones I've mentioned are enough as to be certain it's a fake disk.

César


Ahhhh, great detective work there my friend- the main clue- MUTE470 used on 7 inch singles by Mute. Fakers always mess up on some critical details that make them stand out. Sadly he will sell this to people who dont know these details.


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You are all WRONG

This is not a fake. This is official Greek promo issued by EMI MUSIC Greece. They all have the same artwork/design like this - with black border around. They also use Mute 470 cat. number without any additional numbers/letters just because they collected all versions/mixes on one CD.
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Ok my question, why Greece? Did Mute have an agreement with EMI to distribute at this time? I thought this was dissolved? I would have thought Germany but not Greece.


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You are all WRONG

Thanks for the clarification.
I still think it looks very cheap for being official... No wonder why some fake disks are mistakenly taken as genuine promos by some ebay buyers.

And, by the way, I think Erasure were with Mute in 2011, and that they were "independent" again, although EMI held Erasure's back catalogue. What sort of deal was there in place to have these promos released by EMI? I still don't get the full picture...

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Thanks for the clarification.
I still think it looks very cheap for being official... No wonder why some fake disks are mistakenly taken as genuine promos by some ebay buyers.

And, by the way, I think Erasure was with Mute in 2011, and that they were "independent" again, although EMI held Erasure's back catalogue. What sort of deal was there in place to have these promos released by EMI? I still don't get the full picture...

César


This is what I ask as well. If no deal with EMI in place, why would Greece OF ALL PLACES, release something like this. Especially a country known for making bogus stuff. While it still is listed. I have my doubts that they would use a Mute Catalog number and not an EMI promo catalog number. I have seen OFFICIAL greek promo stuff that have a total different number from Mute.


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This is what I ask as well. If no deal with EMI in place, why would Greece OF ALL PLACES, release something like this. Especially a country known for making bogus stuff. While it still is listed. I have my doubts that they would use a Mute Catalog number and not an EMI promo catalog number. I have seen OFFICIAL greek promo stuff that have a total different number from Mute.


Sorry, I didn't read carefully and asked the same question.



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In some countries Erasure was still with EMI in 2011. For example, 'Tomorrow's World' has been released in Australia by EMI Australia (with 1 bonus track).
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Just as a warning there have also been a few Andy Bell/Shelter iPop promos for the single Beautiful & the album.

NO CD PROMOS whatsoever have been made for these releases,don't waste your money.


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isnt discogs.com like wikipedia, where anyone could add a release and let it look official?
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In some countries Erasure was still with EMI in 2011. For example, 'Tomorrow's World' has been released in Australia by EMI Australia (with 1 bonus track).


Are you really sure about this? I live in Australia and my copy which I obviously bought here didn't have a bonus track nor was it released by EMI Australia. Check this out for example: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/pop/tomorrows-world/288111/

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isnt discogs.com like wikipedia, where anyone could add a release and let it look official?


I agree, its too open to be taken seriously


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Now look one of these the LATEOTW interview CDs has appeared on eBay-

http://www.ebay.de/itm/221611176290


Yes, that's the one I have. I think it's geniue, I doubt somebody who make fake promos will be transcribing the interview to print out. By the way, as far as I know that interview wasn't avialable online.
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Are you really sure about this? I live in Australia and my copy which I obviously bought here didn't have a bonus track nor was it released by EMI Australia. Check this out for example: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/pop/tomorrows-world/288111/



Yes, I'm sure   It seems you have an import copy.



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The things you learn on the internet! I have never seen a copy like this though so that's really interesting!
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Hey folks.....
Have any of you heard about an official promo from Sweden?

https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Fill-Us-With-Fire/release/8780461

...if it's real I wonder why they are writing text in german on the back sleeve...any info about this one?



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Of course its Official!!!
i am very tired of u to be suspected from all promo
how could i know they written in germany???????
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Of course its Official!!!
i am very tired of u to be suspected from all promo
how could i know they written in germany???????

Are you tired of me....haha, thats a good one....can't stop laughing  

This is just a normal question about a certain CD-R promo that i've found on discos.com.....It has nothing to do with you (this time), I'm just curious why a swedish promo has text written in english and in german. If this is a real official promo I might be interested in buying, therefor my question out here to other fans there might know some more about it....btw. with all these fakes and bootlegs out you really can't blame me for being suspicious can you? ......if you are mad at me in cause of that, I think I'll survive



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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Of course its Official!!!
i am very tired of u to be suspected from all promo
how could i know they written in germany???????

Are you tired of me....haha, thats a good one....can't stop laughing  

This is just a normal question about a certain CD-R promo that I've found on discogs.com.....It has nothing to do with you (this time), I'm just curious why a swedish promo has text written in english and in german. If this is a real official promo I might be interested in buying, therefore my question out here to other fans that might know some more about it....btw. with all these fakes and bootlegs out you really can't blame me for being suspicious can you? ......if you are mad at me in cause of that, I think I'll survive



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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OK
Only when u see new cdr uploaded to discogs  - u always think its fake   -  ITS PITY((((
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Only when u see new cdr uploaded to discogs  - u always think its fake   -  ITS PITY((((

Aaaah now I see why you react like you do....It's your add..... 'smirnov1959' here in this forum = 'Bumzy' on discogs

You must know then and I can ask directly to you....where have you bought it/got it from? Do you know how many are made? Is the cover made professionally or 'just' a laserprint. Is the surface on the disc white or is it a white label-sticker with print on?

Never seen this one before and I've never seen this one for sale on eBay or discogs....so I'm curious as a collector of promos......actually i've never seen this promo before and it's from 2012 so please let me know if this is real....if so I'll try to find a copy to my collection sometime, thanks!



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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This promo was sold twice on Ebay !!!
one of the buyer was me!!!!
its oficial promo!!!
if i never seen promo Phantom Bride CDR It doesnt mean its fake !!!!
If u never seen this one Fill us with fire - it doesnt mean its fake!!!
My collection much bigger then urs and i have more rare promos CDR - and it doesnt mean they are fake!!!!
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This promo was sold twice on Ebay !!!
one of the buyer was me!!!!

Ok

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its oficial promo!!!

Ok

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if i never seen promo Phantom Bride CDR It doesnt mean its fake !!!!

I agree

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If u never seen this one Fill us with fire - it doesnt mean its fake!!!

Correct

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My collection much bigger then urs

Sure, mine isn't that big

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i have more rare promos CDR - and it doesnt mean they are fake!!!!

...you are right again


I have never said this promo one is fake, have I?



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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also i made u offer 100$ for this cdr Pantom bride - U declined!!!!
If u change ur mind - pls let me know - Lighnting payment garantee it !!
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https://www.discogs.com/Erasure-Fill-Us-With-Fire/release/8780461

Please answer my question.....I have never said this promo is fake, have I?



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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topic FAKE PROMOS?
u called it?
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topic FAKE PROMOS? u called it?

Yes, and what do you think ? means?




My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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it means   that u still dont believe its official
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it means   that u still dont believe its official


No, you're completely wrong.....that means that I'm asking questions about it because I'm not sure if it's fake or if it's real and if other members here should have more info.

There are so many fakes and unofficial CD-R promos out there....and too many who wants to earn easy money from good people who can't tell the difference (fake or real)!!!

If I had written __Fake promo! with a ! I've believed it was fake, please understand that!

So again please answer, have I ever said that this promo from sweden is fake?



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
My 'When A Lover Leaves You' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkYC6_en-E
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No u didnt !!!!!!
will u sell me phantom bride promo?
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No u didnt !!!!!!
will u sell me phantom bride promo?

Thank you very much...and no, I'm not gonna sell anything from my collection yet...I'll let you know if I come across a spare copy



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
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I think hardly u ever come across ((((((((Or u may be know who has it?
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I think hardly u ever come across ((((((((Or u may be know who has it?


No I don't know who has a copy besides me....guess it's rare since you don't have a copy



My 'Here I Go Impossible' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56CSYAG8aw
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My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
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u dont sell even for 150$???
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u dont sell even for 150$???


No



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My 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' mashup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozoXml76JU
My 'I Lose Myself' remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVtrcNpw94
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smirnov1959 = Bumzy on Discogs (possibly perec1983 ) = swindler = fake promos
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Hey u..??
I dont sell anything from erasure!!!!
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Do you think I'm idiot ? A long time ago that you annoying to many users of Discogs with your ridiculous deals. And then you sell fakes promo cds with other username.
We already Know who you are. I don't sell any CDs of my collection for you, nor even by a million pounds.
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